r/facepalm May 19 '24

The Audacity of some people 🇲​🇮​🇸​🇨​

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u/Responsible-Lemon257 May 19 '24 edited May 20 '24

On a side note.... Mt. Rushmore is much smaller than I actually thought it was.

Edit: Yes I have seen it in person and it is not as impressive as you're led to believe as a child because all you saw were closeups with nothing to compare the size too. Lamest 4 minutes.

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u/Ok-Cauliflower1798 May 20 '24

It still lacks the portability of a plastic lawn flamingo. Practicality is important when choosing kitsch.

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u/Aggravating_Ice7249 May 20 '24

I can’t even put into words how much I adore this comment.

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u/New_Acct_WhoDis May 20 '24

Aww I love ‘good Reddit’!

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u/VocalTrance88 May 20 '24

I'm imagining people could putting a plastic Mt Rushmore sculpture in their front yard to alleviate their underwhelming feelings

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u/Diablosword May 20 '24

You see, to keep it on brand you should put it in someone else's yard.

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u/BrainSqueezins May 20 '24

…and then claim their yard!

Manifest Property!

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u/saysthingsbackwards May 20 '24

but they keep getting bigger and bigger throughout the years

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u/funknpunkn May 20 '24

It's somehow more tacky than a pink plastic lawn flamingo though

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u/joshmoneymusic May 20 '24

Truman's Mother : Here's us at Mount Rushmore. Do you remember, Truman? When Dad was still with us? That was quite a drive, you slept the whole way there.

Truman : It looks so small.

Truman's Mother : Things always do when you look back, darling.

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u/wackbirds May 20 '24

And in case I don't see ya, good afternoon, good evening and goodnight. Yeeeaaap!

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u/SufferDiscipline May 20 '24

As she quickly turns the page

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u/Ianmcbean May 20 '24 edited May 20 '24

Oh it's still really big, this perspective is from pretty far away though.

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u/CaterpillarLast9368 May 20 '24

This is what I tell all my partners

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u/SpiceEarl May 20 '24

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u/zwalker91 May 20 '24

"i was in the pool!"

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u/Melodic-Witness102 May 20 '24

I don't know how you guys walk around with those things

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u/The_Moose1992 May 20 '24

It's a big responsibility but we do it so you don't have to.

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u/UbermachoGuy May 20 '24

Like a frightened turtle

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u/TheRealWatcher May 20 '24

Elaine: "It shrinks?!

George & Jerry (in unison): "It shrinks!"

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u/Boomstick255 May 20 '24

It's the only perspective you can get. That's the visitor area. To say Mt. Rushmore is underwhelming is putting it mildly

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u/Nahuel-Huapi May 20 '24

I was impressed by the number of mountain goats in the area.

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u/Mordt_ May 20 '24

You can get quite a bit closer than in this picture, There's some trails and stuff that go pretty much right up to the base, but yeah it's nowhere near as big as I thought it'd be.

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u/bravesthrowaway67 May 20 '24

Thank you! Possibly the most boring “point of interest” you will ever stop at. You look at the mountain and go “huh, it looks much bigger in the pictures” then you pass through the gift shop on the way back to your car pondering the fact you just made an hour and a half detour getting off the freeway.

Still managed to be the most interesting part of driving through South Dakota though.

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u/PaysPlays May 20 '24

I dunno, Badlands are pretty sweet.

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u/Bean_Johnson May 20 '24

The badlands are awesome. No one talks about how there's a mini grand canyon just hanging out up in south Dakota

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u/TruBleuToo May 20 '24

And Spearfish Canyon was gorgeous! I also enjoyed Custer State Park.

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u/Jrrobidoux May 20 '24

Tbf, the only thing worse were the mass pro-Trump stands all the way up into the viewing area along the roadway.

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u/Vegetable_Onion May 20 '24

Could be worse. You could be in North Dakota.

"North Dakota, the third best Dakota"

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u/Mysterious-Maybe-184 May 20 '24

I agree. I went to Sturgis one year and we went to see this. Completely underwhelming. Like “yeah it looks exactly like it does in the history books. No more. No less.” Wish we had spent the day elsewhere

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u/EJJsquared May 20 '24

It's extremely small. When I was there I was thinking it should be named hill Rushmore. You can run up that thing in a minute. Those pictures we all see, are them playing tricks with the angles.

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u/2roK May 20 '24

Are you saying my uncle wasn't holding back the leaning tower of Pisa with his hand either...?

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u/DannyStarbucks May 20 '24

If you’re used to real mountains it is actually surprisingly small looking in real life.

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u/Ianmcbean May 20 '24

Yeah the name "Mount" Rushmore is kinda misleading, but when you realize it is a >80ft cliff of stone carved by hand, it's hard not to be impressed.

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u/pichael289 May 20 '24

Yeah man I thought it was gonna be enormous, but it's kinda tiny. 90s cartoons made me think it was as big as a whole ass mountain, not just a tiny part of it. It's cool and all, but dam... Same cartoons made me think rhinos were house sized and shot coconuts out their horn so it makes sense I guess.

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u/EXPReader May 20 '24

Well, it was supposed to be full bodies and not just the heads.

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u/jebar193 May 20 '24

Iirc it was meant to be full head-to-waist sculpture but something went awry in the labor department...

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u/SolomonBlack May 20 '24

If you call running out of money with a war brewing something going awry

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u/FandomTrashForLife May 20 '24 edited May 20 '24

It absolutely is. After going there in person, I can say that it’s probably one of the most pathetic and ugly monuments this country has. Tiny faces carved onto what used to be a beautiful piece of nature, all with a giant pile of rubble beneath it.

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u/Mr_miner94 May 20 '24

To be fair the plan was for full statues with a vault in george Washingtons head housing the US's greatest treasures.

But the architect died just after the heads were done and the whole project was canceled.

Which coincidentally is why theres a mound of rubble, no one paid to clear up the debris...

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u/[deleted] May 20 '24

Now as for Hoover Dam….. all I can say is DAMN. It’s better in person.

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u/WStoj May 20 '24

The black hills are stunning. There was no need to do this.

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u/flsammyfm May 20 '24

Crazy Horse is the better memorial anyway...

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u/DependentAnimator271 May 20 '24

It's a scam. They're never going to finish it.

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u/Thowitawaydave May 20 '24

Yup. IIRC the original guy promised to turn it over to the local tribes when it was done (although he never really checked to see if they wanted the mountains blown up, as some of them see the mountains as sacred sites). But he died and the kids figured out the loop hole - if it's never finished they never have to turn it over and can just bilk people for overpriced food and souvenirs.

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u/not_so_subtle_now May 20 '24

I first saw the Crazy Horse monument when I was a child in the early 90s.

It looks like they've made almost 0 progress since, and honestly both monuments are underwhelming, even for an 8 year old. The most exciting part of that cross country trip was staying at a campground beside a restaurant with live bears.

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u/UnfortunateDaring May 20 '24

That’s a giant scam, jewel and wind cave are the better visit in that immediate area.

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u/FunkyBrassMonkey_ May 19 '24

I’ve seen this image years ago, same tweet and reply, but I swear it wasn’t Kyle who replied this, unless I’m wrong im not sure but this image is old and I think predates that Kyle shit

Edit: I stand corrected, I was remembering this tweet from a while back

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u/greendemon42 May 20 '24

It's such a trip that the same thing keeps happening over and over again.

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u/regeya May 20 '24

Yeah, I first saw it thanks to some Twitter "pissed-off patriot" group that called for Lakota flipping off Mount Rushmore to be deported

Like...to where, dipshits? And for having an opinion?

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u/Horizon296 May 20 '24

These are the same people that complain about their rights to free speech whenever someone calls them out for being assholes.

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u/Cavesloth13 May 20 '24

Or racists, or just for being uncommonly stupid.

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u/TheHrethgir May 20 '24

OK, yes, deport them. Deport them from the reservations they where stuck in back to the land they originally owned and was stolen from them. That'll teach 'em!

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u/arkstfan May 20 '24

Guess they could deport them to Oklahoma

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u/FunkyBrassMonkey_ May 20 '24

The dumb get dumber 😔

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u/MotherOfAnimals080 May 20 '24

Anyway I can't wait for the conservative outrage on Twitter when NPR tweets the declaration of Independence for the 4th of July....just like they do every year.

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u/cascadiansexmagick May 20 '24

Really, their entire party's platform is:

"Never learn any lessons."

EDIT: Well, actually that's just a paraphrase. The full quote is:

Don't ever, for any reason, learn anything from anyone or any book or any situation ever, for any reason ever, no matter what, no matter where, or who, or who you are with, or where you are going, or where you've been... ever, for any reason whatsoever... learn things, somethings or one thing or anything, about anything, every, all the time, forever.

  • Donald J. Trump

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u/__codeblu May 20 '24

Tf did I just read?

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u/Relevant_Winter1952 May 20 '24

It’s a ripoff Micheal Scott quote

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u/damTyD May 20 '24

Conservatives are, and want to be, stuck in time. It’s sort of their whole deal.

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u/G4Designs May 20 '24

Edit: I stand corrected, I was remembering this tweet from a while back

Fucking hell, that's even worse.

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u/zonda747 May 20 '24

The irony of them saying, “they break into our country” to natives is beyond hilarious

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u/Principatus May 20 '24

They think they’re Mexican

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u/RocktoberBlood May 20 '24

Oh no, they know.

Look, they don't care. They want to offend yet be be the victim.

MAGA + Don't Tread On Me is a very polarizing statement. I don't need to explain much, as it's self-explanatory.

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u/SquirtBrainz4 May 20 '24

Lmao holy fuck that’s funny, how can you be so willfully/non-willfully stupid

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u/AdImmediate9569 May 20 '24

They should be careful. Kyle might drive to their town and come into their house in self defense…

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u/SpottedHoneyBadger May 20 '24

Well, realistically rittenhouse is stupid enough to make such a remark from an image years old.

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u/mahkimahk May 20 '24

Saying "they break into our country and do shit like this" in response to a picture of Mount Rushmore is still accurate.

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u/everythingbeeps May 19 '24

I don't know what'd be worse; that Kyle knows, or that he doesn't know.

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u/Shirtbro May 20 '24

Apparently he was too dumb to get into the Marines

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u/Upper-Football-3797 May 20 '24

That’s a thing??

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u/DismalActivist May 20 '24

That's how it's portrayed, but really, it's a test of "can and will you take orders?" Gets referred to as the "monkey test," bc even a monkey can take and carry out orders

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u/Taylorenokson May 20 '24

Well he proved he can’t follow the basic order “don’t kill people”.

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u/tumble895 May 20 '24

Before joining any military branch you take a standardized test called ASVAB. There are minimum score you need to get to get into each branch, for marines I think its 31.

The score is based on the % of other people's score as well, which means scoring 31 shows you are smarter than 31% of the people that took the test and dumber than 69%.

So yea...if he did failed to join the marines because of ASVAB, that means he's probably mentally challenged.

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u/grantrules May 20 '24

They put out the crayon selection and he picked RoseArt

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u/Ill_Following_7022 May 19 '24

He knows. He's that much of a fascist murderous asshole.

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u/everythingbeeps May 19 '24

He is also a shockingly dumb motherfucker.

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u/Dobako May 19 '24

He's so dumb, the armed forces don't want anything to do with him.

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u/bigSTUdazz May 19 '24

You almost have to try to fail the ASVAB....he failed, bigly.

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u/darkwulf1 May 20 '24

I’ll be honest, I feel that failing the ASVAB so bad that he isn’t allowed to take it again is just the story the military came up with. They probably don’t want him because his association with the proud boys and that he would be a PR nightmare.

I just don’t care because you know, fuck him.

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u/paralyzedvagabond May 20 '24

This is the most likely scenario. The military is very worried about public perception and controversy.

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u/darkwulf1 May 20 '24

Oh yea. Also when I served, there is a list that we were given with every known hate group. The army told us that if we were a member of any of the groups, we will be kicked out.

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u/LordOfDarkHearts May 20 '24

That's a very good thing. Thank God we have semi functional background checks here (ok, they seem to miss pretty obvious shit from time to time). You don't want such people to have access to God knows what. I now have the dumbest scenarios both possible and impossible in mind ^ ^

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u/deepelempurples May 20 '24

Didn’t this occur before his infamy?

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u/Flagge33 May 20 '24

My friend passed his ASVAB but none of the branches would take him because he was diagnosed with depression a couple years prior and they told him that straight up. They don't mark you as failing the ASVAB for no reason.

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u/maya_papaya8 May 20 '24

🤣 the military is filled with a lot of ppl like him. There are rapists and murderers ACTIVELY serving.

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u/bigSTUdazz May 19 '24

Yes, PROFOUNDLY stupid.

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u/Far-Season-695 May 19 '24

I mean he dropped out of high school so he must have missed that history lesson

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u/ItsTheGreatBlumpkin_ May 20 '24

*Middle school dropout

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u/Seel_Team_Six May 20 '24

Also extremely stupid. Scored low enough on tests the marines banned him from ever applying again. You have to be brain dead for that.

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u/Gugnir226 May 20 '24

Muscles Are Required, Intelligence Not Essential.

When you score so low on the Not Essential part, that’s bad. Really bad.

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u/Anom_AoD May 20 '24

he was so qualified they actually couldn't apply him, damn, that's humiliating

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u/AutoGen_account May 20 '24

the sad part is that if you saw any interviews with his mother he's still the smartest one in the family. He was always going to be a dim bulb with that upbringing but the maliciousness is what really makes him an asshole.

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u/dreamrock May 20 '24

Your story sad to tell A teenage ne'er do well Most mixed up non-delinquent on the block

Your future's so unclear now What's left of your career now? Can't even get a trade in on your smock

Middle-school drop-out No graduation day for you Middle school dropout Missed your mid-terms and flunked shampoo Well, at least you could have taken time To wash and clean your clothes up After spending all that dough To have the doctor fix your nose up

Baby, get movin'(better get movin') Why keep your feeble hopes alive? What are you provin'? (What are you provin') You've got the dream but not the drive

If you go for your diploma, you could join a steno pool Turn in your teasin' comb and go back to high school (la la la la la)

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u/overrated_demigod May 20 '24

Why the fuck did I sing this to myself???

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u/Professor_Bonglongey May 20 '24

That’s exactly the song that popped into my head, too!

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u/IAmATriceratopsAMA May 20 '24

Is he really?

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u/CParkerLPN May 20 '24

*Beauty School Dropout

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u/turlee103103 May 20 '24

This is where my mind went

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u/Negan-Cliffhanger May 20 '24

Kyle Rittenhouse dropped out of middle school. He's worse than you think.

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u/olympianfap May 20 '24

Holy shit, how does one drop out of 7th or 8th grade? Isn't that required by law?

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u/C21H27Cl3N2O3 May 20 '24

There’s an age limit to it. My 8th grade class had someone who kept failing until he dropped out on his 17th birthday.

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u/sunshinebusride May 20 '24

Sounds like presidential material

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u/Bullit16 May 20 '24

I know you're joking, but I have no doubt he'll be running for office in the near future. And I have no doubt he'll win. He's exactly what republican voters want.

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u/sunshinebusride May 20 '24

Yeah there's disturbingly frothy enthusiasm for uninformed/morally bankrupt people in the USA right now. 😬

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u/gtalley10 May 20 '24

Frothy like santorum?

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u/wackbirds May 20 '24

"We need to elect an outsider! Not some educated person with relevant experience in some related field/ area of governance! Plus we need more tough guys! Like Trump! They told him he'd committed multiple felonies and had lost an election and he just stuck his fingers in his ears and kept on making our country better!"

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u/frumiouscumberbatch May 20 '24

And he'll get Cawthorned shortly thereafter. Kid is too dumb to keep his mouth shut about what he sees.

It'll be great to watch.

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u/MadRaymer May 20 '24

Great to know there's an age limit. Maybe now I'll stop having that nightmare that I'm back in HS because I missed a class 25 years ago.

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u/Ok_Coconut_1773 May 20 '24

😢 good lord

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u/m0nstera_deliciosa May 20 '24

That’s heartbreaking. How does that even happen? I have a learning disability due to an aneurysm at birth, and I still did AP classes because I was given accessibility options and accommodations. Did this guy just get forgotten year after year, like nobody advocated for him?

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u/BillionaireGhost May 20 '24

Most likely it’s parents that don’t care. I’ve seen it personally. The parent is also a dropout. Even if they kind of want their kid to do better than they did, they just have lower expectations kind of built in because they dropped out themselves.

So the kid stops doing homework, and it’s a little more acceptable because that’s normal to the parent. Then they get behind and get bad grades, but the parent is less concerned than they should be because that was normal for them. Kid isn’t really getting anything out of school because they’re so behind, they start wanting to stay home from school, parent doesn’t care about truancy because again that’s normalized for them.

Eventually the parent convinces themselves the kid will get their GED or something and it would be easier to just not have to worry about school anymore so they feign an attempt at homeschooling which is really just the final phase of giving up.

Now the kid is at home, not doing their homeschooling, and the parent can finally just not even worry about school, which is how they dealt with school when they were a kid anyway.

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u/KaizerVonLoopy May 20 '24

his parents clearly don't give a fuck, that's how he ended up with an AR across state lines.

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u/artificialavocado May 20 '24

I think you have to be 16 before you can drop out in my state.

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u/anaserre May 20 '24

Unless the parent says they are going to “homeschool “ , and never does. No one checks up on homeschoolers .

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u/sakiminki May 20 '24

I make death certificates as part of my job. You would be shocked by the education level vs job title of older people. I've seen straight up Boeing/NASA etc engineers who didn't complete highschool. Different time. On the job training. Here I am with a Bachelor I'm still paying for 20 yrs later, filling out death certificates and answering phones.

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u/Neveronlyadream May 20 '24

Let's be real here, it's easy to say he's this ignorant because he dropped out, but I've known plenty of people who didn't and are still that ignorant.

It's more likely growing up in a conservative household in Middle America where he was sheltered and had his parents spouting racist and ignorant rhetoric his whole life.

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u/sakiminki May 20 '24

I think that's undoubtedly par for the times. Back then people were still actively hunting Native Americans for sport, like animals. My grandmother who was born in 1928 told me she remembered people doing this. So destroying a sacred space for a cheesy (albeit impressive) sculpture (yes, I have been there and have family in SoDak) is not that shocking in the perspective of the time it was created. As his lack of education is also not remarkable. A lot of people then didn't have complete/formal educations.

And...Pretty sure every white household in rural or even urban America was spouting rascist and ignorant rhetoric compared to what we think today, regardless of their position and intention.

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u/KintsugiKen May 20 '24

Same thing happened to Tim Pool, he got a report card that said he was "underdeveloped" in a number of areas so his parents pulled him out of school and then... just let him sit around on the internet or at the skatepark for the rest of his life, which somehow worked out for him.

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u/imprison_grover_furr May 20 '24

Tim Pool is a horrific man who should be banned from reproducing.

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u/4tran13 May 20 '24

He used to be more moderate. Can't recall what happened to him. Many allege that $ made him hard right.

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u/imprison_grover_furr May 20 '24

He’s a low IQ person. Money or not, the man should be removed from the gene pool.

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u/Ok-Cauliflower1798 May 20 '24

I don’t think any ban will be necessary.

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u/monos_muertos May 20 '24

If I'm not mistaken, Charlie Kirk dropped out of community college. His only moment of setting foot in in an accredited institution is when he's a paid agitator.

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u/BuddhistChrist May 20 '24

Didn’t he try to join the Marines, but they rejected him bc of a very low ASVAB score?

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u/actibus_consequatur May 20 '24 edited May 20 '24

They rejected him for the combo of a low ASVAB and not having graduated high school (or gotten his GED). Recruiters can sometimes get waivers for one or the other, but to get a waiver for both usually requires proving some extremely beneficial skill set.

EDIT: I forgot there's also the whole thing about him sending unsolicited videos of him field-stripping his rifle to his recruiter. That'd probably get him banned for psych reasons.

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u/captaincopperbeard May 20 '24

You have to have an ASVAB percentile of just 31 to enlist. That means out of 100 people who took the test, you scored better than 31 of them. You don't even have to be average to join, you just can't be in the bottom third or so of testers.

Imagine how fucking stupid Rittenhouse has to be in order to not outscore even a third of testers.

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u/actibus_consequatur May 20 '24

That means out of 100 people who took the test, you scored better than 31 of them.

Nope. 100 is average score for IQ tests, while for the ASVAB it's 50. Only ~16% of people score over a 60, so—assuming a perfect bell curve—only ~16% would score below a 40. 

So it's more like he would score better than ~20 people.

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u/monos_muertos May 20 '24

Imagine how unsettling it is that there are tens of millions of Rittenhouses in this country, and the only thing they're proficient in is handling automatic weapons.

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u/fren-ulum May 20 '24

We had a big ass husky boy in my BCT class that didn't make it through to AIT because he didn't complete a single fucking APFT. Dude had an airborne contract too, which was the golden ticket to all the more desirable duty stations. Home boy needed to spend some more months dropping that weight before shipping.

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u/PinkFloydDeadhead May 20 '24

No, he dropped out of Lakes Community High School.

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u/FighterOfEntropy May 20 '24

According to his Wikipedia article, he dropped out of high school.

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u/FrozenFrenchFry May 19 '24

That guys braid is perfection. It doesn’t look like a single hair is out of place

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u/hoewenn May 20 '24

Seriously, their hair must be so healthy to be able to look like that!

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u/Uweyv May 20 '24

I wonder if there's a genetic reason for it. I have a small sample size, namely my grandfather (and to a lesser degree my mother, myself, and my brother). But his hair was always nice, well into old age.

The few others I've seen irl, which aren't many in this area, have all had very nice hair as well.

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u/DefinitelyNotKuro May 20 '24

Im vaguely aware that the reason is indeed genetic. In exchange for having luscious hair for their entire lives, they can’t have beards. Something bout male pattern baldness and beard growth is related…

It’s a pretty good trade imo.

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u/Jakkobyte May 20 '24

And there are some of us who can't grow a beard and also have male pattern baldness. Sometimes in life the only road is a dark one

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u/hoewenn May 20 '24

Same here, I have some Native American blood on my mom’s side and as far as hair goes it’s evident. I know many tribes take their hair incredibly seriously and always have!

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u/DaisyHotCakes May 20 '24

The Native American girl I knew well enough talk to and ask cultural questions to had super thick, course, stick straight hair. Her braids wouldn’t budge and she always had the thickest tidiest buns.

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u/Beneficial_Cobbler46 May 20 '24

People with east Asian ancestry frequently have perfectly round shaped hair follicles. It means their hair is straight and the general robustness of the round shape (and its density) means their hair is strong. All this contributes to a lack of fly-away hairs and frizz in braids.

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u/patlaff91 May 20 '24

As it should be, in indigenous culture hair is sacred. It’s a gift from creator, and is to be treated with love and respect. Depending on the person of course, some won’t allow anyone but family to touch their hair.

I’m growing out my hair, and have so much respect for that person! Proud to see our culture alive, strong, and proud

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u/Main_Blood_806 May 20 '24

Seriously, I’m jealous.

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u/trepidationsupaman May 19 '24

Well they probably live in their sovereign nation, Kyle

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u/t23_1990 May 20 '24

Stop giving this dude attention.

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u/druppeldruppel_ May 19 '24

Mount Rushmore is the weirdest monument in the USA. You have: -Historic and beautiful residence of the POTUS. -Massive, eye-catching bridge with unique red color. -Mountain with faces.

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u/KonradNightHaunter May 20 '24

Personally, I’d say that Plymouth Rock is the dumbest one.

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u/zzaaaaap May 20 '24

I had to look it up:max_bytes(150000):strip_icc()/historic-plymouth-rock-522046774-581a190c5f9b581c0b945b7a.jpg) and it actually made me laugh

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u/Just_A_Nitemare May 20 '24

Wait, that's Plymouth Rock? I always thought it was a rocky shore outcropping. It looks like a depressed lion in captivity, down in that sad sandy pit.

FreePlymouthRock

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u/Val_Hallen May 20 '24

I have been to every State for work. I took the time to see all the famous shit from every state.

I will die on the hill that Plymouth Rock and Mount Rushmore are the biggest wastes of time there is.

If you're in South Dakota, skip Rushmore completely and go to Needles State Park.

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u/YuushyaHinmeru May 20 '24

Holy shit, I thought you were exaggerating.

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u/Budget-Attorney May 20 '24

That’s dumber than I thought it would be

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u/jljboucher May 20 '24

And the mountain is important to Indigenous Tribes of the area before it was carved up.

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u/29degrees May 20 '24

Didn’t the Sioux Tribe move in and conquer the area less than 100 prior to the US taking it from them?

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u/strangelymysterious May 20 '24

The Lakota conquered the Cheyenne and took control of the Black Hills in 1776, and the US Government seized control of the area after the Great Sioux War ended in 1877.

So, the Lakota had control of the Black Hills for 101 years, and the US has had them for 147 years.

It’s also worth noting that prior to conquering the Cheyenne, the Black Hills had zero religious or cultural meaning to the Lakota. They did have that meaning to the Cheyenne; the Lakota simply decided to claim that cultural and religious meaning for themselves after taking over.

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u/TheMeccaNYC May 20 '24

Yup, history is weird. People don’t like that

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u/Turalisj May 20 '24

Kyle talks a lot of shit for someone who failed the test to join the marines.

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u/SatyrOf1 May 20 '24

Most of them run back to mommy and daddy’s money.

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u/SatyrOf1 May 20 '24

No lol. His parents divorced, Dad’s an alcoholic, Mom’s a nurse. That’s why I said most - Kyle is literally drowning and will probably turn violent again in his mid life, if I had to guess.

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u/UsedDecal May 20 '24

Every land is stolen if you think about it, right?

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u/LostTrisolarin May 20 '24

I mean, regardless, one can't just leave the USA. You gotta have a lot of money.

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u/Clean_Student8612 May 20 '24

Also, why should I leave a country just because I'm pointing out its faults? That makes no sense.

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u/ImapiratekingAMA May 20 '24

Conservatives don't think too hard, they just say whatever gets a quick win.

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u/bigSTUdazz May 19 '24

Watched a story on this kid...the right tried to prop him up to be a young face to attract young voters...only to find out that he is, and this is not hyperbole, PROFOUNDLY stupid.

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u/BadNewsBearzzz May 20 '24

Have you seen his attempt at forcing himself to cry in court? Man the secondhand embarrassment and cringe you’ll feel

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u/ArsenalGun1205 May 20 '24

Well it obviously worked.

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u/-ANGRYjigglypuff May 20 '24

lmao, looks like he just squeezed out a massive fart that he shouldn't have trusted

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u/Yellowninja007 May 20 '24

Fun fact mount Rushmore was never properly finished. They were supposed to be full-body originally. And that rubble is essentially trash that was never cleared away.

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u/[deleted] May 20 '24

From the guy who flunked the ASVAB, that’s rich.

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u/pnsnkr May 19 '24

Poor Kyle, always a few pellets short of a shotgun shell.

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u/RoughHornet587 May 20 '24

Ive never heard that one before, and im going to steal it. Like your lands.

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u/NonStopNonsense1 May 21 '24

They might be native Americans... in which case I totally get it. That was a sacred mountain, we stole it and carved a bunch of our leaders into it. I would probably be pissed too

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u/YukariBestGirl May 21 '24

Except that the Blackfoot Mountains were previously stolen by the Lakota from the Cheyenne, and so on throughout history. Conquering of lands was happening long before the American settlers arrive, I think the argument of their land being stolen by the Americans is a very convenient blind spot to them doing the exact same thing. Just a thought.

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u/Opening_Raise_8762 May 20 '24

“You stole my car”

“Then buy another car”

True justice

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u/manic_eye May 19 '24

Then leave

Is Kyle saying they have a duty to retreat? 🤔

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u/satans_toast May 19 '24

Killed a guy, thinks he's a historian.

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u/ImBillButts May 20 '24

Knowing Kyle is a middle school drop out really clears shit up quick

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u/BullofHoover May 20 '24

Worth noting that this is literally, legally defamation. He was factually and verifiably not involved in any murders.

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u/KitsyBlue May 19 '24

How's he supposed to make the grifter bucks?

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u/daikatana May 20 '24

The really sad thing here is that Kyle probably really doesn't understand any of this at all.

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u/PCpenyulap May 20 '24

He was too stupid for the Marines

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u/TrainingCharming9657 May 20 '24

pretty sure all land is stolen land, in the entire history of the world

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u/Neither_Fix_2419 May 20 '24

Yeah, it’s how the world works. Colonizers came to North America, they went to war with the natives, the natives lost. It’s how war works. Did I oversimplify it? Yes. But…it’s how war works. They lost the war, they lost the land.

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u/nightdares May 20 '24

As a member of the Sioux tribe, I have no sympathy for people on the reservation who make no efforts to live better than a ghetto. Every native I've known, including family, have an infinitely better quality of life the moment they move off the reservation. And guess what? They don't lose their cultural heritage either.

Too many people hold grudges they weren't even alive for. Get off the government teat and get to living.

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u/AnniKomnene May 20 '24

Okay, but literally all land is stolen.

All you have to do is go a couple of decades back, and you'll find that whoever had "their" land stolen actually stole it from someone else.

Indigenous people are no exception to this.

So yeah, I get both sides of this. On the one hand, it shouldn't be forgotten how the land was acquired. But on the other hand, complaining about it constantly isn't going to change anything.

But yeah, some of my ancestors stole it from some of your ancestors, who stole it from some of somebody else's ancestors, who...

Honestly though, the thing to focus on isn't the land it's what people did to people.

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u/Jennibear999 May 20 '24

Actually, every land that is controlled by whatever government is “stolen” from someone. Even native tribes fought and killed for control and dominance.

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u/ryzoc May 20 '24

lol a lot of people would if it was that easy.

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u/Commander_Zircon May 20 '24

Seriously though, you can’t tell me mount rushmore isn’t completely distasteful. We really defiled a spiritually and culturally significant mountain, revered since time immemorial, to create some monument to our own vanity. How garish.

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u/Rossums May 20 '24

It was hardly 'revered since time immemorial'.

The Lakota Sioux that like to make a fuss about it being their historically sacred land had themselves only arrived in the region in 1765, following their arrival they openly fought with the existing Cheyenne inhabitants and eventually conquered them in 1776 at which point they took control of the land around the Black Hills from them.

It became their sacred land the same year that the Declaration of Independence was signed.

The Cheyenne along with some other smaller tribes like the Crow and Pawnee had themselves only recently arrived in the Black Hills, the region was initially settled by the Arikara tribe in around 1500 before they too were pushed out of the region by conflict.

As much as the Lakota like to pretend it was some historically and spiritual significant land to them, it was land that had repeatedly and violently changed hands throughout the prior century.

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u/Padre_De_Cuervos May 20 '24

You leave first

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u/McewenHandcraft May 20 '24

That rock face and in fact that whole mountain was a sacred native site. The defacing of it to carve these images has been an affront to first Nations since the day they made the first cut These indigenous people have every right to hate the USA. If you knew even 1% of their history, you'd absolutely understand their hate.

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u/Revolutionary_Act222 May 21 '24 edited May 21 '24

So lemme get this straight.. first you want to take over their land, and then you want them to leave if they don't appreciate monuments representing your hostile takeover?

If you don't like the natives of a country you're residing in, then how about you leave Kyle? 🙃

You literally have running jokes about buildings being built on indian cemetaries. Back up a little bit.

*edit: glad to see the rest of the comments sh¡tting on this man too. Hope restored.