r/facepalm May 22 '24

Pennsylvania Woman Lied About Man Attempting to Rape and Kidnap Her Because He Looked 'Creepy,' Gets Him Jailed for a Month 🇲​🇮​🇸​🇨​

https://www.ibtimes.sg/pennsylvania-woman-lied-about-man-attempting-rape-kidnap-her-because-he-looked-creepy-gets-him-74660
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u/rosettaSeca May 22 '24

she looks creepy

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u/Doomsday_pirate 'MURICA May 22 '24

She IS creepy.

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u/jonasinv May 22 '24

"Her grandmother, who Urumova claimed suffered from dementia, did not recognize her as she entered the house and threw a plastic object at her, striking her in the lip.“

Grandma agrees

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u/Ok_Answer_7152 May 22 '24

I mean she remembered enough to know that she doesn't like her. Dementia is such a terrible disease.

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u/RewrittenSol May 22 '24

Bitch is the definition of a popular Radiohead song.

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u/aniev7373 May 22 '24

She is a creep.

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u/PhantomGhostSpectre May 22 '24

She actually does... Maybe she was just projecting? 

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u/climbitfeck5 May 22 '24

Maybe projecting and also she's evil. I hope people learn Anjela Borisova Urumova's name instead of the poor innocent guy's name and she gets a long prison sentence. She ruins it for all real sexual assault victims.

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u/Kiribaku- May 22 '24

You can literally see the desperation in his mugshot. Then there's hers, in which she looks like a psychopath.

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u/StevenIsFat May 22 '24

Oh I thought she looked like your run-of-the-mill influencer. Same look and attitude as the rest of them.

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u/Elemen0py May 22 '24

She looks like Morena Baccarin and Gary Sinise had a daughter... Then dropped her on her head.

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u/rekage99 May 22 '24

The biggest issue here, outside of her making false claims, is it took the police 30 fucking days to review camera footage. Footage that shows nothing happened.

Why was he put in jail for a month without any evidence? They didn’t even make sure her story checked out?

I hope this dude sues her and the department for this bullshit.

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u/One-Masterpiece-335 May 22 '24

There’s a lot of false dui cases in TN waiting 8-12 months to analyze a blood sample. People’s lives ruined because the police not only false arrest but publish the names of the people so they can lose their jobs.

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u/Ok-Boot3875 May 22 '24

That is happening in Washington as well. Very sad

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u/UseHugeCondom May 22 '24

State or DC?

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u/Ok-Boot3875 May 22 '24

State. It happened to me

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u/No-Bluebird-761 May 22 '24 edited May 22 '24

It happened to my best friend as well in Bellevue 5 years ago. He was 100% sober and was driving home from my house. He was 18 at the time. He had to pay off his lawyer for 2 years and couldn’t go to university because of the high payments. Even though they did eventually get the evidence that he was sober, they still made him go to an alcohol safety course, which made no sense at all since he’d only tried the taste of drinks before, and never actually drank.

More info: They basically told him that the case would go on without the evidence from the hospital because it would take too long and that he should take some agreement that would let him go home from jail that night. Which he did because he was 18, scared, and didn’t know any better.

Then he had to get a lawyer to clear his name with the evidence. It took forever to get the test results. eventually he had his record getting cleared, and he had to take a safety course.

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u/EvoEpitaph May 22 '24 edited May 22 '24

Christ almighty isn't Bellevue supposed to be one of the nicer areas in Washington too?

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u/No-Bluebird-761 May 22 '24 edited May 22 '24

Yes, it’s a really nice place. But not everyone is rich like people think. He ended up having to pay the legal fees himself. He wanted to go to WSU I think, but because of the case he got set back 2 years.

If I remember correctly, Bellevue police department is privately funded as well

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u/HKLifer_ May 22 '24

Holy Moly! I didn't know that a public police department can be privately funded. That seems like it can cause a conflict of interest.

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u/No-Bluebird-761 May 22 '24

I think because a lot of downtown Bellevue belongs to one billionaire named Kemper Freeman. That’s why you also never see homeless people in Bellevue. They can effectively be trespassed from the city. He’s one of their biggest funders, as well as the local tech companies and banks. They have a ton of military style armored vehicles and stuff even though it’s a really small city.

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u/Dull-Geologist-8204 May 22 '24

When I was in high school my mom moved to an area of Maryland that had it's own privately funded police department for just one neighborhood. The weird part about it is they happen in the places that least need them.

On the up side my mom got the police chief fired for embezzlement.

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u/Shaved_Wookie May 22 '24

Wait - the US has privately funded cops with government-granted power? Is it the literal fucking Pinkertons too?

What a goddamned hellscape.

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u/AlmostSunnyinSeattle May 22 '24

The Pinkertons still exist as the Pinkertons, just fyi if you were unaware.

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u/zakress May 22 '24

Nope, that’s Bellevue cops…and Magnolia cops…and Medina cops. Pretty sure there’s others in WA, but I can’t confirm

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u/nerogenesis May 22 '24

Yep people think false confessions only happen in movies.

Police intimidate and push people for them hard, and get them a LOT

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u/BetterRedDead May 22 '24

It’s not just false confessions; something that happens a looooooot Is that poor people basically get forced into accepting plea deals, just because it’s easier, and they don’t have the money to fight the system.

I mean, if you can’t afford bail, or a lawyer, and someone says to you “look, take this deal, and you’ll get probation, but no jail time, or you can fight it, but you have to wait in jail until your trial date,“ I mean, which one would you pick? And then, Bam! Our “justice“ system racks up another conviction, even though the person was probably innocent.

Also, cops: you keep wondering why everyone hates you. This right here. Shit like this is why. We have a legal system, not a justice system. Suggesting otherwise is comical at this point.

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u/No-Bluebird-761 May 22 '24

I don’t think he really confessed. He just agreed to whatever they offered him not knowing that it was also a confession.

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u/nerogenesis May 22 '24

That's the point. Taking a deal is a confession and the make it as unclear as possible to get those confessions. It's just another tactic.

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u/Welcome_to_Uranus May 22 '24

Can you sue the govt for this?

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u/No-Bluebird-761 May 22 '24

Apparently it happens often. I saw a story of a college athlete who lost his scholarship in a similar way and he sued his city and won. But it takes a lot of money to sue your city.

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u/Swollen_Beef May 22 '24

Yes for lack of due process and I'm sure there are constitution violations in there too but it's very expensive to fight. As in 7 figures expensive as cases like that tend to have to touch every court on its way to SCOTUS. AAAAAAAnd by that time the agency will just settle so the Supreme Court won't rule on it potentially taking away the city's ability to break it's own laws.

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u/Psilologist May 22 '24

Merica!! We're number one 🙄. It still amazes me (it shouldn't at this point) at how much of a shit show we live in. I can't wait for the day I set sail and leave this place behind.

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u/UseHugeCondom May 22 '24

That’s insane. It was my understanding that hospitals can do and review blood tests in the scope of a day or so, what possible excuse did they have to make you wait so long? Did you get a lawyer? -another Washingtonian

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u/Ok-Boot3875 May 22 '24

Right? It took almost two years to clear me! It was rough

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u/warden976 May 22 '24

Sounds like 6th amendment territory.

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u/jakely95 May 22 '24

Hospitals are not usually the ones conducting these tests. It is usually a state crime lab, which may be underfunded or understaffed, resulting in long back-ups. In my jurisdiction, the wait on blood tests is usually between 1-2 months.

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u/1stColeslawHater May 22 '24

Happened to a coworker of mine in Alabama back in like 2013, got pulled over, cop only did a field sobriety test, made a “judgement” call, arrested him. Guy had a glass of wine at dinner with his wife, blood work came back at .01 or something stupid like that but he had to get a lawyer involved to get the case dropped

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u/funnystuff79 May 22 '24

They so need to take on mobile breathalysers

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u/SharpEssay5991 May 22 '24

I never understood why they don't have that.

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u/TheDeltronZero May 22 '24

Then how are they going to be able to falsely arrest people. Jeez man, think of those poor police fucks.

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u/LennartB666 May 22 '24

American cops don’t have breathalysers? How else would you want to find out if someone is drunk, what a joke.

In (western) Europe, all police have those in their kit. If you refuse to blow into the breathalyser, they take you to the hospital to draw blood. Refuse that as well? Well you don’t have a license anymore!

If I’m correct, it’s even mandatory to have a breathalyser in your car in France. For all car drivers at least, but I might be wrong in this one!

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u/Crismodin May 22 '24 edited May 22 '24

The problem is they have breathalyzers most of the time but they combine that with a field sobriety test which uses their "expert" opinion to screw you for life. The best thing to do if falsely accused is identify yourself, and then ask for a lawyer and stay silent and do not answer any questions, if they are suspecting you of driving drunk they don't care if you aren't drunk, they're whole goal now is to gather evidence of that whether or not it's true. You want to get the blood test back at the station if you are truly innocent (including the breathalyzer at the stop), do not take the field sobriety test. This goes for foreign visitors as well.

The field sobriety test is essentially you going to court, the police officer is the judge and executioner, they get to decide on their 'expert' opinion if you're drunk or not based on body language/movements - good luck if you're nervous or anxious. Do not take the field sobriety test, especially if you are innocent, however do take the breathalyzer and the blood draw and do not refuse those or you will go straight to jail. You do not have to take the field sobriety test - "In all US jurisdictions, participation in a Field Sobriety Test is voluntary (Wikipedia)" - whatever you take away from this just do not take that test. It can end your whole life over an officer's opinion and the court will accept the officer as an expert - anyways just really wanted to enforce that because for some reason people keep doing the tests because they think it will help them.

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u/heili May 22 '24

Which is a problem in and of itself because the machines, and the mathematical assumptions that they make, are proprietary and not subject to being questioned.

https://sites.duke.edu/apep/module-4-alcohol-and-the-breathalyzer-test/content-the-breathalyzer-assumes-a-specific-blood-to-breath-ratio-to-calculate-the-bac/

They base this all on Henry's Law, which works for a closed system at equilibrium with at specific known temperature and pressure.

Human beings are not a closed system. Temperature and pressure are variable.

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u/wireframed_kb May 22 '24

That’s why it’s only used for field test in any sane country. You then get taken for a blood test, and only THAT can ever be used for any fine or charge against you.

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u/Young_warthogg May 22 '24

American cops typically do have breathalyzers. Maybe some smaller departments might have the supervisor carry it. But any large department that will be a standard part of the kit.

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u/AdmitThatYouPrune May 22 '24

The same thing happened to my dad. He has balance issues and a bad hip, so obviously he wasn't a good candidate for a "field sobriety test," but the dumb cop made him do one anyway. My dad "failed" and was promptly arrested. Fortunately, he's a lawyer and could easily manage the case himself. Still, it's a good reminder that cops will make bullshit arrests just to pump their numbers.

Btw, my dad had exactly zero drinks that night and basically never drinks more than one beer.

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u/Ok_Cantaloupe7602 May 22 '24

This happened to my husband. Blew a .03 but still got arrested.

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u/Vasemannnn May 22 '24

Even if you don’t meet the required BAC, they can still arrest you if they think you were still heavily effected, at least in my state.

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u/AncientSith May 22 '24

They're just gonna do what they want anyway, it's not like they receive consequences for it.

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u/spamname11 May 22 '24

That’s why I feel so bad for “Florida man” every time I see it. Florida’s laws allow the police to write a report on someone, and publish details without evidence. So, the arrest record could be fabricated or exaggerated. But by the time it makes it to court (sometimes years later) the court of public opinion has already weighed in; and unfortunately it’s only from the police officers perspective.

Part of me thinks that some officers exaggerate their claims just so they can see how infamous their arrest gets.

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u/Troysmith1 May 22 '24

Well there is some truth to that. Officers do exaggerate crimes to make a deal more appealing. Throwing in crimes to start from a better negotiations point for the prosecutors

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u/ETsUncle May 22 '24

Police are not your friends

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u/Dodara87 May 22 '24

Would be nice if they were not the enemy...

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u/Gold-Employment-2244 May 22 '24

More and more too many officers are out of control and innocent people are having theirs iives ruined or taken from.

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u/charadrius0 May 22 '24

Not only are they not your friend they also don't have any legal requirement to protect you unless you're in their custody according to the Supreme court.

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u/Own_Author2121 May 22 '24

Even then a acorn might fall and you’ll get shot at.

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u/grindhousedecore May 22 '24

Or leave you in the back of a cop car on the train tracks, and let a train hit the car

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u/Own_Author2121 May 22 '24

Didn’t a lady in Houston or somewhere in Texas have her face attacked by fire ants? End qualified immunity and pay lawsuits from there salary, we would have much better policing.

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u/SchmartestMonkey May 22 '24

That just recently happened. She apparently drove the wrong way around a horseshoe driveway at a Grammar school while dropping off (or picking up) her kid.

Cops ended up dragging her out of her vehicle and pinning her down on a fire ant mound as she screamed about the ants bitting her. It all happened with her kid in the car watching. Her lawyer said he tried to catalog the bites but gave up at around 300.. saying there were many more.

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u/AncientSith May 22 '24

I didn't hear about that one, what the actual fuck. Tortured over nothing, and I'm sure those cops got off scot free again?

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u/Cultural_Shape3518 May 22 '24

Wonder if he’ll be keeping that “thin blue line” sticker on his truck after this.

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u/Whyman12345678910 May 22 '24

Mate…she should be put in jail.

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u/shield1123 May 22 '24

She is in jail, unless she's been bailed. In which case she owes 30 grand to a bail bondsman

Court records show that Urumova was arraigned Monday on charges for making false reports (two counts), causing false alarm to an agency of public safety, tampering with or fabricating physical evidence, and for "unsworn falsification to authorities" (three counts). Bail was set at $30,000, records also show.

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u/Lazer726 May 22 '24

Real talk, I'm all for believing women, I want people to feel safe. But people who do shit like this? They should 100% get thrown in jail for how long the person they falsely accused would have been thrown in jail. Make sure people have a good fucking reason to not be this big a piece of shit, since it seems they have an issue with that

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u/[deleted] May 22 '24

Controversial opinion: I don't like the whole "believe women" thing. It elevates women as some arbiter of truth. Women have just as many assholes as men, and "innocent until proven guilty" has to apply otherwise the justice system topples.

That unfortunately makes a lot of sexual assault cases hard to prove. The crime is often only witness by the victim and the perp. It sucks, but what's the alternative? jailing people willy-nilly because women never lie?

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u/DaBozz88 May 22 '24

I think the "believe women" trend is because many don't, legally. IMO it's more about taking all SA claims seriously than just taking them blindly at their word.

How we take claims seriously when the evidence has been destroyed is tough and no one should be convicted on a he said/she said, but there should be some investigation done.

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u/[deleted] May 22 '24

I think the term "believe women" doesn't work in this context. call it something else.

"take sexual assault seriously", for example. No lengthy guesswork and explanation needed.

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u/RedMephit May 22 '24

I like that version better, plus the "believe women" version excludes men from coming forward about being sexually assaulted.

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u/madroxide86 May 22 '24

what about believing men?

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u/Cutiemuffin-gumbo May 22 '24

My nephew was falsely accused of rape by a girl, and it took the police 3 years to get his DNA testing sent off, only to find out the girl was lying and was just mad that he wouldn't go out with her.

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u/SuperSprocket May 22 '24

The court system is completely overloaded, some people have spent months in crowded jails waiting to just see a judge for fines and other minor sentences. Public defenders are equally strained, most seeing the clients whilst in the queue for their first court appearance.

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u/IAmRules May 22 '24

She needs to go to jail not just sued.

Not to start a flame war but this is why the whole accusation is enough argument never made any sense.

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u/TinyBouncingBananas May 22 '24

Put this woman in jail for the duration he would've gotten if it had happened. Fuck people like this! Ruining lives without a second thought, this is insane.

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u/Ultamira May 22 '24

I think this is what people should be focusing on instead of the women vs men argument everyone wants to try and make. Cops absolutely failed in their job to investigate this properly.

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u/von_Roland May 22 '24

Some people are scared of the weapon others are scared of the one who pulled the trigger. Both are reasonable.

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u/purplecockcx May 22 '24

so they just put him in jail with no proof?

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u/cambeiu May 22 '24

He could not pay the $1 million in bail. So he was kept in jail.

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u/BanSoup May 22 '24

And her bail was nowhere close to that. Wtf.

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u/Gh0stMan0nThird May 22 '24

Their logic is they don't want to punish liars because it might hinder real victims from coming forward. 

Not saying I agree with it, but that's the logic.

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u/Ape-ril May 22 '24

That’s illogical.

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u/ScootyPuffJr1999 May 22 '24

Exactly. If you can’t be proven to be a liar, then you shouldn’t have anything to worry about.

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u/Nezarah May 22 '24

There should be an amendment to the law where if a claim can be proven to be absolutely false and was a lie likely made with malice or ill intent, then that person should be charged with with what they were accusing the other person with and/or serve the equivalent time the aggrieved had to.

false accusations of rape can destroy someone’s life social life, family and career. For sure there is more unprovable cases (where the victim can’t get fair justice) and unreported cases…it’s a ethical quandary, but having your life messed up because someone thought you looked creepy is just so wrong.

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u/GCI_Arch_Rating May 22 '24

Cash bail shouldn't exist. Case in point: this man lost a month of his life to a lie while a rich man wouldn't have been inconvenienced.

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u/gringo-go-loco May 22 '24

Not to mention that despite her coming forward and him being innocent society will still view him harshly. He probably lost his job. His mugshot will likely be online forever since the US has no laws to allow him to have it removed.

You can Google his name and see:

https://www.thereporteronline.com/2024/04/22/yardley-man-arrested-for-attempted-rape-and-kidnapping-in-middletown-township/

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u/milescowperthwaite May 22 '24

Why can't every news outlet that published this false allegation be required to edit and update with the charges being dropped and why? One site linked on this thread did, and this one did not.

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u/gringo-go-loco May 22 '24

Unlike the EU there are no laws requiring them not to.

My friend in college was arrested for sex with a minor who lied about her age. He was 1 year too old. He was later found innocent as they didn’t have sex and she had lied to the police to avoid trouble with her father…but his mugshot and arrest record still show up years later. There was never anything published by the media following his trial and his entire town still believe him to be a “pedophile”. He has no criminal record and is not a sex offender.

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u/milescowperthwaite May 22 '24

Can't she be held liable in a civil trial for this?

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u/seriouslees May 22 '24

Sure, but have fun getting blood from a stone.

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u/TubaJustin May 22 '24 edited May 22 '24

And have fun paying for it after losing your job and spending a month in jail.

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u/somepeoplehateme May 22 '24

No.

I mean, if you're rich - maybe - but then again, if you were rich, this wouldn't happen to you in the first place.

But yeah, come up with the $10K-$20K for your attorney to get the bond lowered. Come up with another $10K-$100K for bond. Then potentially come up with another $10K-$50K for criminal defense.

Okay...that gets you out of criminal trouble. Now all you need to do is come up with another $20K-$100K for your civil suit.

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u/ticawawa May 22 '24

Probably not "newsworthy" enough....

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u/overnightyeti May 22 '24

Sure but why can't every news outlet simply not be permitted to publish names and mugshots of people who are still only under investigation, instead?

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u/Mag-run May 22 '24

Bc why tell the whole truth, it no make money

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u/eleven_good_reasons May 22 '24

Jesus Rollerblade, this article is describing a brutal rape attempt. Yet none of it is true?! edit: the man falsely accused has nothing to do with it.

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u/I_divided_by_0- May 22 '24

Yeah but he was "creepy" to that 20 year old /s

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u/Dambo_Unchained May 22 '24

While cash bail is an issue the fact he could even be arrested without evidence is the main issue

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u/URSUSX10 May 22 '24

Evidence: trust me bro

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u/Feuerpanzer123 May 22 '24

what the fuck is this reasoning? "Oh we don't have anything on you except her saying you did it, so pay up motherfucker or its still jail for you"

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u/Wide_Pop_6794 May 22 '24

Also, one million dollars? Something tells me they didn't want him to be able to bail. I don't know much about the average bail amount, but still...

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u/CheMc May 22 '24

US prison system and in general a lot of prison systems in the world are pay to win, that's the reasoning. It's a for profit industry.

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u/mattyyboyy86 May 22 '24

That’s a pretty steep bond… but i guess you wouldn’t want a broke ass rapist on the loose. Now one that has a million dollars, that’s a different story.

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u/robacross May 22 '24

Um, "Excessive bail shall not be required", anyone?

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u/burnalicious111 May 22 '24

That is typical of the American justice system.

If cops set their sights on you, they can utterly fuck up your life, and there's pretty much nothing you can do about it, even if it's totally unjustified.

I get everybody's up in arms about the false accusation. I think more people should be upset about how the justice system works.

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u/TestesOfFortitude May 22 '24 edited May 22 '24

It can be both. The justice system is messed up and allows for things like this, and there is no punishment for knowingly taking advantage of that fact.

A (criminal, not civil) law punishing an accuser in the same way if they can be proven beyond reasonable doubt to have been falsifying their claim would fix the problem. The American justice system on its own doesn’t preclude the idea of that, it’s a social thing.

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u/No_Anybody8560 May 22 '24

Accused of a violent crime, he might not have been able to meet bond.

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u/Prestigious-Phase131 May 22 '24

Throw her in jail, people like this are evil

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u/Rex-0- May 22 '24

Kidnapping carries a twenty year sentence.

I don't see much difference here tbh.

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u/Whhheat May 22 '24

She stole the man’s life for a month.

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u/Rex-0- May 22 '24

Exactly. Not only that but a sexual assault allegation carries a stigma regardless of its veracity.

People lose friends and jobs over this stuff.

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u/kissele May 22 '24

People also get hurt in jails over this stuff. He was in a dangerous place for a month. She should be there for 6.

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u/decemberindex May 22 '24

Displacement of your person without consent, definitely could be defined as kidnapping in a court of law with a thorough enough prosecutor.

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u/Tall_Show_4983 May 22 '24

Keep her there too

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u/[deleted] May 22 '24

Ironic part is she looks creepy

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u/Jim-Jones May 22 '24

5 years for false accusations and perjury

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u/Aussie-Ambo I come from the land down under May 22 '24 edited May 22 '24

Nah, same time as the punishment the accused would have received if they were found guilty.

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u/mrthomasfritz May 22 '24

She should have to register as a sex offender, her crime is sexual in nature.

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u/dancingmeadow May 22 '24

This I wholeheartedly agree with. Or she'll just do it again and her past will be inadmissable evidence probably.

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u/AadamAtomic May 22 '24

People have literally had their lives ruined and jobs lost because they were falsely accused.

Some people straight up committed suicide, Even after being found not guilty because it ruined their life and they couldn't get it back.

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u/ironfoot22 May 22 '24

My brother was accused of SA in high school. Completely ruined his life. Lost all his friends and got kicked off the football team. A few days later she recanted and admitted she made the story up for attention and she thought he was creepy. He was exonerated, but the damage never fully went away. She faced no consequences despite fully admitting she fabricated the whole thing start to finish.

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u/minnesmoka May 22 '24

To be honest, if I made a false claim about someone to the point where they have nothing left to lose, what's to stop them from completely annihilating me?

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u/Justsomejerkonline May 22 '24

What’s to stop them? Maybe the fact that most people have no interest in raping or assaulting someone.

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u/Daimakku1 May 22 '24

Some people aren’t capable of being evil against someone else even if they got their lives ruined by them. That is probably one reason.

And those people are lucky they didn’t ruin the lives of bad people. Those will end you.

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u/Wubba_1ubba_dub_dub May 22 '24

Nothing. And honestly, I think that person has a right to seek their own justice. Same as when a child is murdered or injured and the court does nothing, but the parent takes care of it. A future was stolen, there is nothing left to care about

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u/Bencetown May 22 '24

Bring back "fuck around and find out."

Stop waiting for the largest organized crime gang to come and "save" you.

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u/JustHereForBDSM May 22 '24

Adding to this, its not just the time spend fighting to be proven innocent while everyone thinks they're guilty its that even after being proven as innocent 100% completely people will still behave like the accusations were true.

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u/prammydude May 22 '24

This is a great idea. And it makes sense. It is a sexual crime against another person, with at least the same repercussions to the victim.

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u/Current_Finding_4066 May 22 '24

I will believe it, when I see it. And it is not enough. He could get decades in prison. Hes life completely ruined. Even now it has been severely harmed. He probably lost his job, friends,... Her punishment should fit the crime. At least the same sentence he would get, if she was not exposed for a liar.

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u/AnymooseProphet May 22 '24

Cases like this are why bail needs to be reasonable.

Why was his bail set at $1,000,000 ????

It seems to me that the purpose of high bails is to profit the bail bond industry, and that's just fucked up.

It's much harder for the accused to come up with a defense when they can't afford the bail.

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u/Fina1Legacy May 22 '24

As a Brit I don't get the concept of paid bail. 

Either a person who hasn't been convicted is safe to go home or a danger/escape risk. Why does money come into it at all?  How is it fair in any way? 

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u/jesonnier1 May 22 '24

Who said anything about fair? You mentioned money?

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u/fistfulofbottlecaps May 22 '24

Here's the thing with America.. if something stupid happens, and it's allowed to keep happening, it's making someone rich....

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u/Fina1Legacy May 22 '24

Best and most concise explanation I've seen.

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u/Yarriddv May 22 '24

The actual goal of bail is/should be to allow ppl to await trial in freedom while denying them the financial means to run away and covering costs do tracking them down in case they do run. So yes 1.000.000 bail for the average joe is ridiculous.

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u/LostLegendDog May 22 '24

My friends aunt lied about a mutual friend raping her and he almost went to jail for a long time. He had the texts to backup his side of the story though and she went to jail but only for like a month

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u/pepegaklaus May 22 '24

for like a month

That's fucked up

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u/Jean-LucBacardi May 22 '24

You think the chick in the article is going to do more? Hell her bail is only at 30,000 versus the 1 million they set for the guy that she lied about.

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u/GreaserGreg May 22 '24

She should face the same charges he was facing.

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u/tbiards May 22 '24

A buddy of mines frat brother who was a foreign student from the Middle East was accused of rape. He was expelled from school and his parents forced him back home when he was able to come home. Turns out she lied because she didn’t want her dad to find out she slept with a brown man. The school offered him back admission but his parents refused to send him back to the states. The school gave her a stern talking to(and nothing more) while this dudes education opportunity was ripped away from him.

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u/urbanarrow May 22 '24

There needs to be an offenders registry for these women.

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u/jimmib234 May 22 '24

My brother was accused of raping a girl on a date. He did was in for 6 months before they even got to the first hearing, where the girl got on the stand, changed her story 3 times, and then admitted it was consensual sex and that she made up the rape part because her girlfriend caught her cheating. He lost his job, daughter, his car, and had to declare bankruptcy. Nothing happened to her.

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u/Feuerpanzer123 May 22 '24

Did she have any kind of prove or was it just her statement?

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u/LostLegendDog May 22 '24

Just her statement and that she reported it herself

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u/Lopsided_Ad_3853 May 22 '24

Does nobody bother to look at any evidence before locking up innocent people? This is the third story I've learned about in the past 30 minutes featuring Americans being put in jail on the most spurious, flimsy evidence. Some of them were locked up for decades - one woman was put away because someone else claimed that they'd confessed to murder. Literally no other evidence. Wtf?!

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u/bobthecow81 May 22 '24

Worst case of this I’ve ever seen was from the UK. Where the police had CCTV footage of the suspect doing nothing but doctored it to make him look guilty

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/man-falsely-accused-of-sexually-assaulting-actress-feels-like-he-has-undergone-mental-torture-sanctioned-by-the-state-a6867366.html

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u/Nicksofloud May 22 '24

So she didn’t go to jail??

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u/No_Anybody8560 May 22 '24

She’s facing several charges for false reporting and fabricating evidence. That’s just the criminal. Her victim will be within his rights to sue her.

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u/cambeiu May 22 '24 edited May 22 '24

He is probably going to sue to county or the state too. He was arrested and charged in less than 24 hours after she filed a complain, which means that there was no investigation done before he was charged. The DA basically took her word for it, charged him and only THEN started the investigation, which later showed that he was innocent.

She is being criminally charged because she made the DA look like a fool, not because the DA feels bad for the guy.

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u/funkmasta8 May 22 '24

If the DA wasn't being foolish, they wouldn't have looked like a fool

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u/scrollbreak May 22 '24

This is the order of things

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u/Howaboutthishandle May 22 '24

Yes, but the likelihood of recovering the judgment is slim. The criminal punishment for this type of behavior should be harsher. We can’t be relying on the civil aspect providing the necessary deterrence.

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u/docwrites May 22 '24

He was held on a $1M bond, hers is $30,000.

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u/Roxylius May 22 '24

Victim could at least sue her in civil court and garnish her wage for the rest of her life. That’s assuming she is working at all

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u/KeviRun May 22 '24

They pretty much have to. This accusation is going to inhibit their success for the rest of their life - fewer and worse job opportunities, prejudices for placement and advancement, continued harassment from strangers who Google the guy's name and find only the accusation with no followup, estrangement from family, relationship barriers, people constantly judging his behavior around women and kids. The guy is going to have to spend the rest of his life explaining to people that may have no interest in listening to what he has to say that he is provably innocent of the charge. Any civil court award will need to take this into account, she really could have fucked his life over.

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u/TrollCannon377 May 22 '24

she really could have fucked his life over.

Correction she did fuck his life over just the accusation of commiting a sexual crime is usually enough to completely ruin someone's life get them fired from their job and be in hireable in anything other than dishwasher / sanitation jobs

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u/Abnormal_readings May 22 '24

r/facepalm?

You misspelled r/iamatotalpieceofshit.

The “justice system” in this bullshit country is a joke. 

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u/HabitantDLT May 22 '24

They didn't have a single shred of evidence against the man and still kept him in jail for a month?

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u/Klangey May 22 '24

Why was he is prison if they hadn’t reviewed the evidence and confirmed her accusations with any credible evidence beyond a victim statement?

What sort of backwards legal system is this?

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u/Klangey May 22 '24

I mean that an absolutely any due process. Also, what the fuck state of a legal system allows the suspects name to be released before they are officially charged with anything?

Do you not have the legal right to presumption of innocence?

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u/morganml May 22 '24 edited May 22 '24

Cops showed up at my door one Sunday morning because I drove a wasted girl home and dropped her off. Her parents literally just assumed I raped their daughter, and she was so blasted that night she could not tell them for certain I didn't. If I had left her at that party in the sand dunes.... She was already in danger when I loaded her up to go home.

3 witnesses were with me, and they all confirmed the ride was safe. Her parents came back with "they're all boys ofc they're gonna say they didn't rape her!".

And she puked in my car.

Guess what? Wasted girls get left on their own now.

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u/DPW38 May 22 '24

No good deed goes unpunished.

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u/Still_Succotash5012 May 22 '24

Welcome to our new low trust society.

Seems like it's legit safer to help random men these days than women or children. The guys parents aren't going to press charges for helping him get home safe.

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u/Medical-Ad-2706 May 22 '24

I would’ve left her to begin with. Don’t go anywhere with a drunk girl.

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u/ThienBao1107 May 22 '24

Wasn’t it supposed to be innocent until proven guilty?

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u/HallowQueen777 May 22 '24

As somebody who was (unfortunately) actually raped, these pieces of scum who make false rape accusations absolutely sicken me. Having to go through the process of getting checked over, swabs taken, photographed is already humiliating on top of the actual assault and then so many cases get dropped because of lack evidence (Sometimes it’s a “he said, she said” thing according to courts) and it eats you up inside and takes away your being. It’s been over a decade and it still affects me.

Then you have someone like this woman make a false accusation against a man, ruins his life, he was sat rotting in a jail cell for a month and could have been facing years! He could lose his job, his family, friends, his whole life all for some selfish twisted bitch who just felt like making up some bullshit story.

They need to start getting tougher on false accusers, if found guilty then at the very least they should get the sentence that the alleged rapist would have gotten, not a slap on the wrist.

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u/metallaugh666 May 22 '24

Jesus christ...ive heard stories of women doing false allegations for revenge but because he LOOKED creepy? Fucking terrifying

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u/Euphoric_Extension53 May 22 '24

Fuck this bitch

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u/SnOwYO1 May 22 '24

Or don’t, she will still say you did anyway

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u/SpecialpOps May 22 '24

This is way funnier than it needs to be!

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u/Cybermat4707 May 22 '24

Should receive the same sentence he would’ve gotten if she’d gotten him convicted.

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u/mic_decod May 22 '24

police needed one full month to review cctv material from omnipresent cameras in a supermarket parking lot?

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u/jimbojangles1987 May 22 '24

Better be goddamn felony charges like the falsely accused would have been convicted of. What an absolute disgusting piece of shit.

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u/ravengenesis1 May 22 '24

I'm sure the guy's gonna sue her ass to the moon. But the news won't report that case.

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u/mteir May 22 '24

What if she is broke, and he just ends up worse even if he wins the case. Pay 50k in legal fees for a pack of chewing gum.

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u/31November May 22 '24

They’re called unsueable defendants - people so broke they can’t be sued. It’s a shame

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u/Dextrofunk May 22 '24

31 days to watch the security cams and check her phone? The best in blue!

What a ridiculous story. If I pointed to a random dude and said, "I saw him murder someone!" He would not immediately be thrown in jail.

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u/Mylifeistrue May 22 '24

I've had this happen to me. The only thing that saved me was the texts of her asking me to come over again and her disclosing her address to me after the alleged "rape" Scary stuff dumb bitch even tried to say I bit her so I had to have dental tests and shit too. Obviously there's a lot of proof I didn't do anything but it's still so scary when you read shit like this where people did nothing wrong and got fucked. Also when you get accused of this you automatically get put on a thing called "suicide watch" because of the seriousness of the crime you are watched 24/7 by multiple officers they even watch you take a shit too. and part of the rest is having samples from each part of your body taken by them, fingernail clippings, pubes, humiliating stuff. Punishment for this shit should be a sexual criminal record and 30 years in prison if you ask me. And the reason she did it? She had a bf who she didn't want to think she cheated on so she accused me of that. It's funny how we can't even sue them for slander or defamation either after ruining our reputation and you prove it was all a lie. I'm still extremely extremely angry over this.

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u/puledrotauren May 22 '24

Why didn't they check the surveillance etc before arresting him?

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u/EightandaHalf-Tails May 22 '24

Cases like this are why accusations should never be automatically believed, as people recently have been trumpeting. All accusations should be taken seriously, and duly investigated, but you should never take someone's word as gospel.

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u/Rolandscythe May 22 '24

Sadly not remotely the case. I had a friend who used to work at a school for autistic children until some tween girl who had the hots for him tried to accuse him of rape when he wasn't interested. Never mind the fact several other adults working at the facility refuted her stories, that the only other 'witnesses' to anything were her friends from the school, that her story changed twice, or....and here's the kicker...that the same girl had accused two past teachers of the same thing and they were both acquitted. NONE of that mattered to the county DA.

She kept that poor man in a county jail cell for 18 months until his family could finally pay off his 100K bail and get him out. The DA then wasted another year of his time pushing the trial date back under various excuses before finally dropping the case altogether admitting they lacked evidence.

And get this...that same girl accused a FOURTH teacher of trying to molest her while my friend was in jail fighting this.

The school eventually just kicked her out since it was a private institution and probably damn tired of the legal drama.

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u/Mindless-Charity4889 May 22 '24

Was this in a jurisdiction where the District Attorney is elected? Because I could see the incentive to “do something” about a reported crime like this even with the lack of evidence. It still looks good to make the arrest, especially in an election year.

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u/Rolandscythe May 22 '24

They're voted in, yeah, though it's to my understanding that since then the county courts 'dismissed her due to bad performance'. Presumably she had a reputation as a man hater in court.

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u/von_Roland May 22 '24

Yeah. Any form of bigot in a position of legal authority is dangerous. I worry about the rising acceptability of misandry. There have been studies that show women on a jury are more likely to convict a man in all circumstances regardless of presented evidence especially in sexual cases. We think this all men are dangerous and trash language is harmless venting but it can have a real impact on the lives of real people.

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u/_ssac_ May 22 '24

Wild. 

Even more since the two first times it didn't work out for her.

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u/Rolandscythe May 22 '24

Again....DA didn't care about that when my friend's attorney brought it up. The fact the girl said some guy raped her was all the DA focused on.

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u/RollingToast May 22 '24

His bail was set at 1 million but her bail was only 30K. That’s some bullshit.

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u/Traditional_Draw8400 May 22 '24

So he went to jail because she had an ick. Got it.

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u/TheDefeatist May 22 '24

I love that the detail she gave to police to help them find his vehicle was his thin blue line sticker and then they threw him jail for a month despite camera footage from the parking lot not showing the attack she claimed happened.

Keep backing the blue buddy they totally care about you.

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u/PhilosophyUpper866 May 22 '24

She should be charged with making a false report, Then sued in civil court.

People like this ruin people's lives because the media blasts your face all over saying you were arrested for att rape,

Hope she gets everything coming to her!

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u/Glittering-Pause-328 May 22 '24

It's terrifying to know that I could be arrested and jailed for a month, just because the police didn't bother to check the evidence first.

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u/hamellr May 22 '24

Welcome to being black in America for the past 400 years.

This is literally a systematic problem with police forces baked in from their inception.

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u/FCKABRNLSUTN2 May 22 '24

He went to jail for being ugly. Unbelievable.

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u/Stonewall30NY May 22 '24

Fuck man I'd have to imagine after a month in jail you lose your job, have all sorts of bills missed that fuck your credit score. It might not seem like a lot of time but a month in jail can literally ruin your life. All for a lie. He deserves to sue the police for millions, sue her for everything she's got, and she deserves to spend at least triple that time in jail