r/teamliquid 5d ago

Weekly r/Team Liquid Weekly Discussion Thread - Week of May 20, 2024

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Welcome to the Weekly Discussion Thread! All of the rules (except for Rule 1) are relaxed in here, so please be wary of spoilers if you aren't caught up on this week's games.

Team Liquid Game Schedule can be found here! https://teamliquid.com/schedule


r/teamliquid 10h ago

TL What is TLs mindset going into the World Cup?

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Is this something they will not be practicing hard for in order to avoid burnout and instead focus their efforts on Summer Split?

Will they be scrimming hard to get more experience vs top teams?

Will they be doing their best to win to prove they are on the level of other Eastern teams? Is there a prize for winning?

Or is it basically the same as their normal schedule anyway, and this won’t contribute to burnout as much as we think?

Just curious how they will approach this event given how much it will seem to disrupt the normal LCS schedule.


r/teamliquid 20h ago

TL Liquid Echo vs Falcons AP Bren / MPL Philippines Season 13 Playoffs - Upper Bracket Finals - Match Result

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TEAM LIQUID ECHO HAS QUALIFIED FOR MSC 2024!!!

Team Liquid Echo beats current MPL Philippines and World Champions Falcons AP Bren in a thrilling five-game series, winning 3-2. They will join the Dota, Starcraft, and Apex teams at ESWC 2024 in Riyadh this Summer.

They also made it to the Grand Finals of MPL Philippines Season 13. They'll play again this Sunday at 18:00 local time (GMT +8) for a shot at the title which could be TL's first major trophy in Mobile Legends:Bang Bang

Recapping the series, Falcons AP Bren had a great start in game 1, with a 14-minute stomp. TL Echo strikes back after a back-and-forth game 2. KarlTzy (pronounced as Karl-Tee-Zee) picked up a crucial XBorg pick in the Jungle, last played in the first half of season 13, and got into match point, 2-1. Falcons AP Bren countered TL Echo's aggressive approach and with a failed BennyQT (TL Echo Gold Laner) gamble in Game 4, it was all even, setting up for an epic Game 5. TL Echo went down early with a great early game by Super Marco (Falcons AP Bren Gold Laner), but TL Echo kept in step until a great final team fight despite being behind 6k in gold. Jaypee (TL Echo's Roamer) made a crucial pick off to Falcons AP Bren Jungler KyleTzy (Kyle-Tee-Zee) and TL Echo clean-up shop and headed straight to the crystal (or should we say Nexus) to grab their spot in MSC 2024, as the first qualified team from MPL Philippines.

Vods of the game can be found on Youtube although most are in Filipino but some channels do release English vods of the game.

Congrats once again but jobs not done for TL Echo.

#LETSGOLIQUID


r/teamliquid 17h ago

Rainbow 6 Furia Esports vs Team Liquid - Blast R6 Manchester Major 2024 - Phase 3 - Quarterfinals

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r/teamliquid 1d ago

LoL Playing vs FNATIC and T1 at MSI 2024 | SQUAD

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r/teamliquid 1d ago

Starcraft 2 The player that Originally made me a TL fan back in the early 2010's

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r/teamliquid 1d ago

CS Wtf is Happening with TL CS?

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Inconsistency, zero synergy and what seems like zero awareness.

I’m sorry but it’s time for the Yekindar experiment to end. Constant bottom frag and underperformance.

The team can’t keep track of the enemy positions. They are constantly getting flanked and crushed every game.

I understand late round calling for executions but waiting for the last 20 seconds of a round to scramble and try jumping into a site is just embarrassing.

I’ve been a TL fan since they merged with Curse and a Curse fan since season 3 LCS promo matches. This just hurts to watch man.

Sorry for the rant. Have a good day everyone.

Seriously glad to see some interaction on this post. I would love to keep bouncing off each other here cause I know we only want what’s best for the team.


r/teamliquid 1d ago

CS Liquid vs Eternal Fire / CCT Global Finals 2024 - Grand Final / Post-Match Discussion

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r/teamliquid 1d ago

TL Liquid Echo vs RSG Philippines / MPL Philippines Season 13 Playoffs - Upper Bracket Semis - Match Result

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Team Liquid's official debut in MLBB Esports ends in a win as TL Echo sweeps RSG Philippines and is one win away from making it to MSC 2024 at ESWC in Riyadh. They play again tomorrow against the winner of Falcons AP Bren and Blacklist International at 16:00 local time (GMT +8)


r/teamliquid 2d ago

CS Liquid vs Astralis / CCT Global Finals 2024 - Semi-Final / Post-Match Discussion

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r/teamliquid 2d ago

Rainbow 6 Bleed Esports vs Team Liquid - Blast R6 Major Manchester 2024 - Phase 2 - Round 5 (2-2)

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r/teamliquid 3d ago

TL Team Liquid in Mobile Legends Bang Bang Esports

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For the rest of the world this should be a normal Tuesday, but in Southeast Asia this is a monumental day as Team Liquid enters the biggest and currently most watched (not counting Chinese viewership) Mobile Esports title in the world, Mobile Legends: Bang Bang (MLBB).

For those who are curious what's going on, why TL in SEA is a big thing and all you need to know what's going to happen moving forward.

What is Mobile Legends: Bang Bang?

Mobile Legends Bang Bang or MLBB is a 5v5 Multiplayer Online Battle Arena (MOBA) that is played on mobile devices. The game itself is easily accessible whenever you are in the world, except for certain areas due to various reasons (mostly geopolitical due to the game being developed by Moonton, a gaming company based in China) but generally it's available in Google Play or in the App Store. It has a average player base of over 70 to 80 Million users monthly and has made over a billion downloads. The game quickly took Southeast Asia by storm and has ever since took over as the biggest game particularly in Indonesia, the Philippines, and in other SEA countries.

What is Mobile Legends: Bang Bang Esports? Why has the esport have gotten that big?

Competitive MLBB got underway in 2017 with tournaments in Southeast Asia eventually leading up to the inaugural MLBB Southeast Asia Cup (MSC) held in Jakarta and was won by I DONOTSLEEP ESPORTS of Thailand. Soon after, in 2018, the MLBB Pro Leagues or MPL were launched in Indonesia, the Philippines, and jointly in Malaysia/Singapore. From there on other regions in SEA slowly grew and more competitive regions develop particularly in regions outside SEA leading up to its inaugural World Championships, now labeled as the M-Series, in 2019. Held in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, the first edition won by Evos Legends of Indonesia.

The boom in popularity happened in the pandemic when people were engaged on their phones playing the game and eventually found themselves watching the competitive scene after to look how the best players play and do it on their own in ranked games or to get some codes flashed to grab themselves some juicy in game diamonds or skins to show off.

Eventually viewing numbers were growing so fast that it reached to millions particularly in Indonesia where their MPL is averaged to almost a miilion viewers and peak to around two to three million come playoff season.

Today, MLBB Esports is considered to be the most watched mobile esports based on the data from Esports charts with its peak viewership reaching over 5 million during Game 7 of last years World Championship grand final (M5) held in the Philippines between Indonesia's Onic Esports and the Philippines’ AP Bren. The game became the fourth most watched of all time (Only surpassed by T1 vs DRX Game 5 and T1 vs Weibo Game 3, both at Worlds Finals in suceeding years and the 2021 Free Fire World Series).

Why Indonesia and the Philippines? Who are Aura and Echo?

Indonesia and the Philippines are considered as the most popular and competitive regions of MLBB. Think of it as the LCK and LPL of the esport as they are the most successful in international competitions. The Philippines, in particular, has won four (4) consecutive World titles and has considered to be the "Korea" of the scene with Filipinos imported to so many regions across the world. Indonesia on the other hand has the biggest viewership as its marquee MPL matches often top the viewership charts even beating out the LCK and the VCT based from data from Esports charts.

Aura and Echo are MLBB teams based in Indonesia and the Philippines. Aura Esports was founded in 2018 and became a part of MPL Indonesia in 2018 when the league adopted a franchised system (similar to how League teams worked at the same time). Unfortunately the team haven't found great success with its highest finish was in season 10 when they placed third, However they have won 2 domestic cups, known as "Piala Presiden" in 2021 and 2023.

Echo on the other hand, started as a qualified stack in MPL Philippines Season 3 as No Limit. They placed sixth that season. The following season, the roster was acquired by Sunsparks, a local team in the MLBB scene and took the league by storm. Eventually winning back to back titles including an epic 5 game series against Onic Philippines in the grand finals in Season 4 and a backdoor clincher in season 5). The stack was acquired by Aura and rebranded as Aura Philippines in seasons 6 and 7. When MPL Philippines adopted the franchise system, the team did another rebrand to distinguish themselves separately from the Aura brand and named themselves Echo.

The team finished in 5th-6th in back to back seasons which was particularly painful especially in Season 9, when they were dominant for majority of the regular season as a Super team comprised of big names in the Philippines scene including KarlTzy and Yawi (a little more about them later). In season 10, many considered Echo as a middle of the pack team compared to RSG Philippines who were crowned MPL Philippines and MSC Champions and was considered the best team in the world mid season, and Blacklist International, the World Champions of 2021. The team made another promising run with 2 rookies in Sanford and Sanji however, resulted to a different ending. After finishing second in the regular season, they never turned back as they beat RSG Philippines twice in the playoffs to secure the regions second seed in the M4 World Championships to be held in Indonesia.

Both Echo and Blacklist, the regions first seed, found themselves in good forms and eventually met in the upper bracket finals where Blacklist dropped Echo to the lower bracket after a 3-2 win. Echo held themselves on and finally got it all together to steamroll both the lower bracket finals beating Indonesias second seed RRQ Hoshi and in the grand finals, they finally shatter the code with authority by sweeping Blacklist 4-0 in the grand finals to become M4 World Champions. Echo followed that success with a domestic title in Season 11, beating Blacklist again with a 4-0 sweep in the grand finals.

What exactly did TL acquire?

Team Liquid basically acquired the company who handles both Aura and Echo, Stun.GG as they secure not only the MPL teams of Echo and Aura but also they acquired its developmental teams. (similar to TL having an academy team in the NACL) Aura and Echo have their respective teams in the MLBB Developmental Leagues or MDL in their respective regions. This means TL have four teams playing in top two competitive regions in MLBB .

So why did TL acquired Aura and Echo in the first place?

As we all know, TL is one of the 30 participating orgs in the Esports World Cup (ESWC) in Saudi Arabia and MLBB is one of the participating titles in this two month long event. Organizations such as Gaimin Gladiators, Team Falcons, Twisted Minds, and Blacklist International do also have MLBB teams which are a part of the ESWC. Team Falcons and Fnatic have also partners with some teams in MPL Philippines with the goal of qualifying to MSC 2024, now rebranded as the MLBB Mid Season Cup as a part of the ESWC. Qualifying to the ESWC means orgs have a shot in gaining points to determine who will be ESWC Overall Champions and acquire financial bonuses from the program. Also MSC 2024 will have the biggest prize pool ever in the esport with three million dollars on deck.

Apart from the ESWC, the acquisition will be historic not just for TL but also for MLBB and Southeast Asian Esports as TL will finally expand their reach in APAC, particularly in SEA as the MLBB teams will be the first TL teams based in SEA. this will also mark the First set of Indonesians to represent the organization. Unfortunately for the Filipino players they aren’t the first from the Philippines as that title belongs to the legendary jungler of the back to back to back to back LCS Champions and 2x MSI Runner up Xmithie who is hailed in Iloilo province in the Visayas Region in the Philippines.

So who are the players in TL Aura and TL Echo?

For now I'll only rundown the players of MPL teams of TL .

Before that a quick explainer on MLBB player roles. Its basically composed of an EXP laner (solo laner who plays in the EXP lane, to get more EXP or in League terms the Top laner), Jungler, Mid laner (in MLBB jargon it is also known as Position 4 or Pos 4), Gold laner (the one who plays in the bot lane or ADC. that player plays in the Gold lane for more gold) and Roamer (Support in league terms)

TL Aura is composed of Aran (EXP), Gugun (Jungle), Yehezkiel (Mid), Kabuki (Gold) and Yawi (Roam) with High (Jungler/Roam) as sub.

Players to watch will be Gugun, a super rookie who is very high skilled and touted as one of Indonesia's best junglers coming from the developmental scene, and Yawi, the team's Filipino import , who is hailed as one of the best roamers in the World. His signature hero, Chou (modeled similar to Lee SIn in League), was chosen as the signature skin when he won M4 as a part of Echo. He is known for getting pick offs at the right time and great initiator for team fights especially in contests for the major objective

TL Echo is composed of Sanford (EXP), KarlTzy (Jungler), Sanji (Mid), Bennyqt (Gold) and Jaypee (Roam) with Zaida (Jungler) and Outplayed (Gold) as subs.

Players to watch will be KarlTzy (Pronouced as Karl-Tee-Zee), known widely as a prodigy who entered the scene at aged 14, and now recognized as one of, if not, the greatest MLBB players of all time, being the first two-time World Champion, first with Bren Esports in 2020-21 then with Echo in 2022-23 and he is only 19 (turning 20 in August). He is initially known as one of the most lethal assassins in the game but eventually expanded himself to a utility player with a team first mindset as the teams shotcaller and leader. Also to watch is the duo of Sanford and Sanji as being the main carries for Echo . They are recognized as the one of the best in the world for their roles in the EXP and Mid lanes. When the team needs a big play ahead, you'll be counting on them on the clutch.

So whats coming up for TL Aura and TL Echo?

The main focus for both TL MPL squads is to qualify for MSC 2024 as top two seeds in MPL Philippines and Indonesia will make the cut, however it wont be that easy.

TL Aura finished fifth in the regular season of MPL Indonesia season 13 and will be facing Evos Glory in the play in round of the playoffs in a do or die best of 5. The winner faces top seed Bigetron Alpha and the loser ends its road to Riyadh. The series will happen on June 5th at 18:15 local time (GMT +7)

TL Echo on the other hand are in a much better spot finishing second in the regular season of MPL Philippines Season 13 and will be facing the dangerous RSG Philippines in their opening round of the double elimination bracket scheduled this Thursday, May 23rd at 16:00 local time (GMT +8)

There you have it, now you're in the loop in what's up with TL MLBB and we hope to see you guys support their journey towards making it to MSC 2024 and later in the year, the ESL Snapdragon Pro Series and MPL Philippines and Indonesia Season 14, a qualifier for the M6 World Championship in Kuala Lumpur

#LetsGoLiquid

Post edit: apologies you might observed typos as I made this piece at 2:00 AM and was lacking sleep. Also want to wish u/EsportsReptar and the rest of the MPL Philippines casters the best as their playoffs start today until sunday so a busy week for production.


r/teamliquid 3d ago

Rainbow 6 Team Liquid vs KAWASAKI SCARZ - Blast R6 Major Manchester 2024 - Phase 2 - Round 4 Low (1-2)

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r/teamliquid 3d ago

CS Liquid vs ENCE / CCT Global Finals 2024 - Quarter-Final / Post-Match Discussion

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r/teamliquid 4d ago

TL TEAM LIQUID x AURA & ECHO || HELLO INDONESIA & THE PHILIPPINES👋

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r/teamliquid 3d ago

Valorant We Ranked the Best VALORANT Pros of All Time

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r/teamliquid 4d ago

TL Team Liquid Valorant fanart ig?

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I became a fan of Team Liquid through Valorant. Recently, I was watching the VCT, and wanted to make a poster for my all time favourite team in Valorant. So here it is. It ain't the best, but it's something.


r/teamliquid 4d ago

Rainbow 6 Team Liquid vs Spacestation Gaming - Manchester Major - Phase 2 - Round 3 Lower Match

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r/teamliquid 4d ago

LoL Is Yeon the first western adc to draw lucian nami bans from kr/cn?

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I am trying to think, but I dont think any western adc ever got their lucian nami play specifically respected.

Its worth mentioning because its the most difficult lane to play at a world class level. Its up their with carrying team fights on ezreal or jayce.

I highlight adcs because i think its hardest to play for the lucian, although core also deserves credit for the bans too


r/teamliquid 5d ago

CS AMKAL vs Liquid / CCT Global Finals 2024 - Group C Winners' Match / Post-Match Discussion

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r/teamliquid 5d ago

Rainbow 6 FaZe Clan vs Team Liquid - Blast R6 Major Manchester 2024 - Phase 2 - Round 2 Low

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r/teamliquid 5d ago

Rainbow 6 M80 vs Team Liquid - Blast R6 Major Manchester 2024 - Phase 2 - Round 1 Matches

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r/teamliquid 6d ago

CS Liquid vs OG / CCT Global Finals 2024 - Group C Opening Match / Post-Match Discussion

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8 Upvotes

r/teamliquid 7d ago

Rainbow 6 Geekay Esports vs Team Liquid - Blast R6 Major Manchester 2024 - Phase 1 - Upper Bracket Semifinals

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14 Upvotes

r/teamliquid 8d ago

Valorant MIBR GC vs. Team Liquid Brazil | Game Changers 2024 Brazil: Series 1 | Main Event | Grand Finals | VLR.gg

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r/teamliquid 8d ago

Rainbow 6 G2 Esports vs Team Liquid - Blast R6 Major Manchester 2024 - Phase 1 - Upper Bracket Quarterfinals

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